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Quit Happens Podcast

Dr. Lynn Marie Morski is a physician, attorney and lifelong quitter. Through her “Quitting by Design” website she helps people carve out successful lives through strategic quitting. Her goal is to destigmatize quitting and illustrate what a useful tool it can be in creating a fulfilling life. In this show, she interviews people who have used strategic quitting successfully in their paths with the goal of providing listeners actionable advice to help them quit their way to success.

Celebrating 100 Episodes of Quit Happens!

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I’m so excited to celebrate 100 episodes (can you believe it?) of Quit Happens with you today, and to do so, I’m going to be sharing two interviews where I was the guest on other podcasts.

If you’re a regular listener you’re probably already familiar with Mike Bledsoe of The Bledsoe Show and Josh Trent of Wellness Force. I love these two humans so much and wanted to share these two amazing conversations for you to enjoy as well.

A couple links I mention that are worth checking out:

Jason Goldberg’s Episode

And the even funnier YouTube video


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Show Notes From My Episode On The Bledsoe Show

From the Bledsoe show website:

Table Of Contents

Strategic Quitting: An Introduction

Mike: All right. No more at the VA and no more capoeira. Why did you quit the VA?

Lynn Marie: Oh boy, there’s quite the place to start. The VA was supposed to … so, I worked in compensation and pension. So, I wasn’t ever making anybody better, just richer. So, as they were getting out of the service, I would see them … Mike, you’ve gone through this process, right? I’d see the vet or the vet to be, I would write down what they got in the service, and then they would get money. And it was the least medical thing I could do because there was no call, there was no writing prescriptions, I made my own schedule. It was 10-hours a week because there was a government pay ceiling that you would hit.

But it wasn’t anything I ever wanted to do, there was no passion behind it. It was just that when I got out of … and this, I’m sure, will come up at some other point, but I had been a multimedia designer, and then I thought, this isn’t working for me and I went on this soul searching thing of what’s going to work for me. It’s going to be a sports medicine doctor, that’s my dream job. And so, it took me 10 years to get from multimedia designer to sports medicine doctor, and a quarter million dollars in loan money, and I got there, and I was miserable. And so, I was like, I have to figure out a way to make my medical degree pay the bills until I figure out what’s next. And so, that’s how I got into the VA nine years ago.

And I spent nine years, and god bless it that it was only 10 hours a week because that’s what let me go to law school, and that’s what let me to do a start-up, and I was able to teach law, and work in politics, and it had … when you’ve got 30 more hours a week than the average person, you can try other things on the side. But there was never a second where that was my calling. And when something’s out of-

Getting a job as an M.D.

Mike: Is it hard to get a job as an M.D.? It sounds like it’s fairly simple.

Lynn Marie: It’s extremely hard to get into medical school. It is very easy to get a job after medical school.

Mike: Got it.

Lynn Marie: Yeah. Especially in family medicine or something that they need in every rural community everywhere. But even the specialists, it’s easy for them because they’re really sought after and there are not that many of them. So yeah, medicine is great for job security, but it’s also great to burn you out before you’ve even started.

Mike: I’ve heard how residency works. It sounds like-

Lynn Marie: Or it doesn’t.

Mike: … the worst way to learn anything.

Lynn Marie: Absolutely. It was … I was working at the Mayo Clinic, that’s where I did residency, and they had what was called Q3 call, which means every third night you’re working 30 hours in a row. Now, we’re all into sleep these days, the bio-hacker set, right?

Mike: Right.

Lynn Marie: Imagine every third night you just don’t get any of it. The next day your sleep schedule’s going to be totally off, and then the day after that you might get regular sleep, and then you start it over because every third night you do that.

Mike: I think I was talking to … I think it was Dr. Kirk Parsley about this. Part of his career has-

Lynn Marie: Yes.

Mike: … been focused on sleep, he’s a medical doctor. And I want to say it was the conversation with him where we were talking about how ridiculous it was because if you ask somebody in charge of why are we staying up for 30 hours at a time as we’re trying to save lives and learn how to do our job? Tradition.

Lynn Marie: Tradition, yeah.

Mike: That’s it.

Lynn Marie: Mm-hmm (affirmative). If I had to walk seven hills, uphill in the snow both directions, you’re going to. And I’m like, yeah, people died then, mostly the doctors. I mean, I’m in a thousand doctor Facebook groups and every doctor … I mean, I’d say 70 percent of them have gone through at least a period of burn out, if not still currently feeling very burned out.

Mike: I’ve met very few doctors that seem to have their shit together.

Lynn Marie: Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I figured out before I even graduated fellowship that this was not for me, and this was not a healthy lifestyle, but you don’t know until you’re there.

Mike: By the way, you’re one of the doctors I think do have their shit together, just so you know. Didn’t want to just leave that out there.

Lynn Marie: Right. I invited you on despite the fact that you’re totally jacked up.

Mike: Yeah. You won’t even notice the rest of the time I’m making fun of you.

Lynn Marie: For this one time that I’m not, let me point it out.

Mike: Right.

Lynn Marie: Awesome. So yeah, medicine, not great, in a nutshell.

Quitting The Medical Profession

Mike: So, what caused you to leave medicine?

Lynn Marie: Well-

Mike: I guess you didn’t leave medicine until recently, but.

Lynn Marie: … it was definitely a stepwise process, okay? This is the thing, and this is what I love to talk … to illustrate to people who are … we haven’t really talked about what I do, but quitting. So, if people are in something and they’re thinking, gosh, I don’t know if I should quit or not, maybe think back to the road up to it because the road for me when I got into deciding, okay, do I want to be a doctor, is this something I want to do, I had already had like three quasi-failed careers in my mind, even though I was 20. And I was, I better know exactly what part of medicine I want to go into. There are so many fields, right, I didn’t want to just go in thinking I’ll figure out a field that I like.

Most people do. Most people go straight out of high school, and they go to college, do pre-med, then they go and they’re like, I’m going to figure it out in med school. I’ll try the rotations. No, no, no, that was not an option for me. I wasn’t going to “waste” more time. I was already … I was halfway through grad school for multimedia when I made this decision. So I was, okay, let’s look at all the specialties. And the only specialty that even looked remotely interesting was sports medicine because I’m a dancer and I figured, sports medicine I could make it work in a dance medicine setting. I had never met a fully functioning and employed dance medicine doctor, I was going to be the first.

And it didn’t occur to me that, gee, maybe you shouldn’t spend 10 years of your life learning all this complex stuff and the only thing you ever want to do with it is hand out ice. That’s essentially what sports medicine is, right? 90 percent of what I was doing was rest and ice, and I should have realized that. And then I get into med school, everybody in the third and fourth year when we’re doing rotations, they’re, oh my gosh, I can’t decide on a residency, I love everything. And I was, oh my gosh, I loath everything. Thank god there’s sports medicine. I didn’t like any rotation, but sports medicine is not a residency, it’s a fellowship. So, you have to do another residency beforehand.

So, I had to do family medicine for three years, that’s when I was at Mayo. And it was easily the three worst years of my life. There was nothing resembling health or sanity by the end. I realized one day when I was in clinic that my heart is beating out of my chest. The second I get into clinic, the second I have to think about seeing a patient, I’m feeling thump, thump, thump, thump in my chest.

I was not doing all the right things. I was absolutely ignoring every signal that my … I had a panic attack the first year of med school. I had never had a panic attack before in my life. Didn’t even notice it, I went to the ER, they said nothing wrong with you. They never used the word panic attack, and they just sent me home. And so, I never addressed any … oh, does this give me anxiety? It never occurred to me, not once.

So, I get four … I’m four years into being an actual M.D., I have a medical license, I have passed all the exams, at which point I start taking beta blockers because I cannot handle the fact that when I’m sitting in clinic trying to see patients I feel like I’m about the have a heart attack. And it was somewhere after I started taking beta blockers for my clinic induced tachycardia that I finally had the realization. Oh, and that’s a painful moment when you realize you have spent a quarter-million dollars of loan money and 10 years of your life to get to a thing that is not the dream job you thought it was going to be.

So, that was the beginning of the end for medicine. But at that point, I was going to have to start paying back these massive loans, I was going to have to start paying rent, what else was I going to do? I was going to have to find a way to make it work. And so, I looked at working in pharma, I looked at working for the companies that make the electronic medical records, I looked at doing anything that didn’t involve me seeing patients. However, I found the VA job that only required me to see patients like 10 hours a week and I thought, okay, I can handle that. And so, that’s how I ended up going down that route.

How She Got A Law Degree

Mike: Got it, got it. You have a law degree as well?

Lynn Marie: I do.

Mike: How did that happen?

Lynn Marie: So, over the years I got better at following my intuition, after completely medicating out of it on the tachycardia side. So, I finish fellowship and I get the job at the VA in Phoenix, and I end up moving out to San Diego. They had the same job out here and I got hot in Phoenix, so moved to San Diego. And I ended up moving downtown next to a law school that they’re building.

And as I’m sitting in my condo, I kept feeling very envious of the people who got to go to that law school. If you think that’s insane, it’s because I had already tutored people on how to take the LSAT because I had read the How to Take the LSAT book in seventh grade because it was lying around. And I was, oh my god, I love the way this test tests you. I took the GRE, which had one of the same sections as the LSAT, and I got a perfect score on that section. And I was like, this is how my brain works.

And so, I tutored my law school and I tutored my salsa partner, and they both both into law school. And I was, I want to take the LSAT, I want to go to that law school. And so, I finally was just like, man, if I feel that strongly about it, I should just do it. I’m working 10 hours a week. And I said to myself, “If I can get in and go for free, because I clearly cannot pay another cent in loan money.”

Mike: But what was the reason you wanted to go?

Lynn Marie: Oh. Because I felt like … I didn’t have a what.

Lynn Marie: … I just wanted to do the stuff that I saw in this LSAT book. I felt like the LSAT was what law school was going to be like and it was. I loved it. It was so much fun. I was the only person who was like, the best day of the year was exam day because I was going to get to do law. I loved it. I could just tell.

Finally I listened to my intuition, this is what I want to do. There’s reasoning and rationale. In medicine it was, do you have diabetes, are you over 50, are you male? Then you take this medicine. It was algorithmic based, there was no creativity, there was no thinking out of … I’m like, now I can’t even use whatever part of the brain would have been used in law. There’s no rational thought. There is not, okay, I’m going to problem solve this thing. It was, oh, you’ll be sued if you don’t use this algorithm because medicine-

Mike: Really.

Lynn Marie: … oh yeah, because medicine is all about … there’s malpractice. Most doctors are just running around afraid of being sued because there’s such a litigious thing going on. In California it’s not that bad because California has caps to what you can make in a lawsuit, but I was in Arizona, and I did medical school in St. Louis. And so people are just, okay, I’m going to only do evidence based things that we’re told that we can do because I don’t want to get sued. I mean, patients would even kind of threaten. Oh, I’m going to tell my lawyer if you don’t order this test. I mean, it’s not a great time to be a doctor. I’m not sure there was, maybe back in the ’50s, but definitely not now.

And so, yeah, there was no … the art of medicine was not really an art to me. But law, that’s just how my brain works. I could tell, I knew. Finally, after ignoring my intuition for forever, I just looked at that law school, I want to go there so badly. I didn’t care what I did with it, it didn’t matter, I just wanted to go. And I did, and I loved it. Now I have a law degree.

Mike: And this is all … have you read the book Mastery-

Lynn Marie: No.

Quitting By Design and Quit Happens Podcast

Mike: Let’s talk about quitting real quick, let’s just do it real quick. So, what caused you to write the book? You’ve got the Quitting by Design podcast … or Quit Happens is the podcast.

Lynn Marie: Yes.

Mike: Quitting by Design is the book.

Lynn Marie: Exactly. I was about 38. At this point I had done multimedia, medicine, gone to law school. I had been Chief Medical Officer, and House Legal Counsel, and co-founder of a start-up, then I had taught law, then I worked in politics. And after that point I was, oh my god, I’ve done nearly every career out there. You can switch careers at any point.

About three years ago I woke up one day and I … well, I didn’t so much wake up. I mean, I woke up and I listened to a podcast. Seth Godin was on the Tim Ferriss podcast, and he was talking about finding your calling. And as I’m listening to it, I thought, my gosh, I clearly haven’t found it. But you hear about these people who wake up and they love doing what they get to do, and I’ve worked so hard, why can’t I be one of those people? This is ridiculous. Let’s figure out my calling.

This was not a passive thing, this was like Calling Figure Out Day 101. And so, Seth Godin had said, ask your friends. So, I went on Facebook and I was, hey friends, what’s my calling? Here are some options. Do you want me to write a book, do you think I should go into politics, what? So, plenty of comments.

Having self-limiting beliefs

Mike: You don’t have very many self-limiting beliefs, right?

Lynn Marie: … imposter syndrome is the only one because I can’t actually be good at all these things. So, a friend of mine was, okay, I’m going to meet with you and we’re going to discuss your calling. And I was, oh, what a generous offer. So, we’re going to meet at the aforementioned Starbucks. And I’m sitting in my car, and I’m waiting for him, and I brought a little journal. I’m going to write down what we discuss. And I’m like, well, I got here first, let’s just see if I can start this on my own. So, on one piece of paper I wrote, what am I good at? And the other piece of paper I wrote, things I like to do.

On the things I like to do piece of paper I put public speaking and giving advice. And when I put pen to paper on the things I’m good at side, it just said quitting. And this is probably forefront of my mind because I had given a speech at law school graduation about strategic quitting. I had heard it on Freakonomics a long time ago. Not necessarily that term, but-

Mike: Good. I hadn’t even thought about Freakonomics in a long … that was-

Lynn Marie: Right, old school.

Mike: … so much fun.

Lynn Marie: It was great. And they had an episode in 2011 called The Upside of Quitting. And when I listened to it I was, that’s everything I’ve ever thought about quitting because I’ve never had any of these quitting limiting beliefs. I’ve never had a problem quitting. And so, when I got to give the speech at graduation I was, what’s the most useful thing I can tell a bunch of people who are going to go out and be lawyers? Lawyers are always miserable. Let me tell them before they even start they can quit.

Yeah, exactly. So, I just saw that and so I gave that speech. And so I think I had kind of, through that, realized quitting was my superpower. And so I thought, all right, if I want to give public talks, and do public speaking, and give advice, let’s make it on quitting. And so, that’s why I was, well, to be a true public speaker, I think you have to write a book first. And so, I wrote a book. And then, once that was off to a publisher, the publisher said-

Mike: I love how you identify the next thing that has to happen and you go, well, I guess I have to do that, so I’ll do that. So you do it. Most people don’t do that.

Let go of these beliefs

Mike: So, what are the beliefs that people have about quitting that have them hang onto things that they should otherwise let go?

Lynn Marie: Sum cost fallacy is a big one. I’ve already dedicated this much time, or this much money, or this much energies to a thing, so that means I should keep going. And you hear this in relationships so often. Well, we’re not doing really well, but we’ve been together three years. If the last three years aren’t great, what makes you think the next 23 are going to be great? And what about having put three years into a thing makes you somehow have to stay there?

If you think about food. If you just went to a restaurant and you got a ton of sushi … something you can’t take home, right … and you eat half of it, and you’ve already spent $100 on the sushi. Well, if you say okay, I’m going to throw half of it away, you’ve still spent $100. If you eat all of the sushi, you’ve spent $100. That $100 isn’t coming back to you whether or not you eat the sushi. But if you’re really sick after you’ve had half of it, and you just keep eating because you’re spent the money, you’re just going to get sicker. And that’s really how it is with everything in life.

If you’re at this law firm and you’re, but I spent five years, and if I spend five more I could get partner. Oh, so that you’re more miserable now that your name is on the letterhead and you’re legally bound and responsible things. Do you think more responsibility is going to make this a less painful job? It is never a good reason to stay. Let those costs go.

And I think another way to reframe that for people, if they’re struggling with that, is look at my own situation. If I had said I’m going to spend a quarter-million dollars in loan money, that I am still paying back, let’s be honest, if I was going to spend that and 10 years of my life to become a sports medicine doctor, then that is one certain feeling.

If I get to sports medicine and I don’t love it, I think it’s going to feel like a ball and chain. Well, I spent this to get here. But I was actually investing that time and that money ina career I would love, I just happened to think sports medicine was going to be it. And when I got to sports medicine and it wasn’t it, because I’ve already invested so much, I owe it to myself to keep looking until I find that true dream career.

Opportunity Cost

Lynn Marie: Yeah. That’s another thing they talked about in that Freakonomics episode is opportunity cost. There are only so many hours in the day, there are only so many 9:00 to 5:00 jobs you can have at once, one. For most people, present company excluded maybe, you can only be in one relationship at once.

So, there are opportunities that if you’re in the wrong relationship you’re missing out on the opportunity to be in a better one. If you’re in the wrong job, you … and here’s the thing that … what I couldn’t have even … I could say it theoretically, but until I recently experienced it when I quit the VA with no backup job, I did not know it in my bones. You do not know the opportunities you’re missing out on when you’re in that job, or that relationship, until you get out because you can’t even necessarily sometimes see and open yourself up to the possibilities when you’re in that stressful situation.

Lynn Marie’s Purpose

Mike: So, that was a beginning conversation that got me thinking about purpose a little bit differently because I actually avoided answering that question a lot. I was, yeah. People go, oh, it looks like you found your purpose. That’s why I’m asking you, you seem like you’re doing well, it seems like you’re doing something truly unique and so on and so forth.

Lynn Marie: Well, this is the … the answer I have is that the purpose that I thought I had when I started the quitting thing has expanded. And so, when I started the quitting thing I thought, I’m going to help de-stigmatize quitting, teach other people how to have my superpower, and get them free, and unstuck, and unsettling. And then, recently when I quit the VA and became very passionate about de-stigmatizing plant medicine, I realized my purpose in life, overarching, is just to de-stigmatize things. Just to be kind of like a filter-less way of saying, hey, all the things you want are probably okay.

Do you want to quit your job at 72? You can do that. Do you want to do some psychedelics? You should do that. I mean, it … so, I think my purpose is just super broad and there’s a lot of ways I can take that. But it’s not my only purpose. I think there are other things that people look at me for inspiration for that have nothing to do with de-stigmatizing. Maybe so. Actually, since I’m kidless by choice and they could look at me and be, oh, you’re de-stigmatizing kidlessness. Maybe everything is a de-stigmatization. So, I just have a very general purpose.

Lynn Marie’s Upcoming Plant Medicine Podcast

Lynn Marie: Yes. I am starting something called the Plant Medicine podcast. And by plant medicine, most of your listeners are going to know what I mean, but my colleagues are all like, turmeric? Ginkgo biloba?

Mike: Yes.

Lynn Marie: And yeah. All except they’re going to have to … they actually mostly think I’m talking about veganism. No, I’m definitely eating a steak while recording this. What I’m talking about is psychedelic, entheogenic medicines, but I called it Plant Medicine because I wanted to keep CBD and marijuana in there. And psychedelic obviously has … I was just reading Michael Pollan’s book and he’s talking about there’s so much weight around that word, that I’m trying to get to the medical community and patients. I’m not trying to talk to the psychonauts that are already doing this. I’m trying to talk to the guy who’s got PTSD and his regular prescription medications and therapy have not made a dent, and he’s, please tell me there are other options out there.

I’m trying to talk to the physicians who are, ma’am, my patients aren’t getting better. I wish there was another therapy, even for just they’re on opioids. Gosh, CBD can get people to decrease their opioid use or cancel it out completely, but your average doctor doesn’t know this because we’re not taught this in medical school. Why are we not taught it in medical school? Because obviously it was illegal to do any research on most of these for most of the past century. So, by the time that something … you would only get into the medical school curriculum after you’re evidence-based for years, and then you work your way into the curriculum, right? I mean, medical school doesn’t even cover the endocannabinoid system. The whole system they just don’t talk about.

And so, I’ve offered many companies, let me help you do your medical outreach. That’s what I wanted to be part of. And that’s when I realized, man, if nobody’s taking me up on this, maybe that’s not the way to go. And that’s when I came up with the let me do a plant medicine podcast. It’s a little harder task because reaching out to doctors, you’re going to … that’s a little more active. I can just, at this point, hope that doctors share this podcast and hear this podcast.

But the reason that it’s for me the intersection of medicine and law is that on this podcast, each substance we discuss … CBD, marijuana, psilocybin, ketamine, MDMA, all the way through ayahausca, ibogaine. I’m doing four episodes. The first episode is going to be a patient experience. Second episode is the scientific research, so I’ll have a researcher on who’s doing the research on these drugs. The third is a practitioner episode. So, maybe it’s a doctor that’s recommending marijuana, maybe it’s a shaman that’s doing ayahausca ceremonies, maybe it’s somebody who’s running a ketamine clinic.

And the fourth episode is a history/legality episode because if you’re thinking, I’m curious to do these drugs, I don’t know where I can do them legally, I don’t know where they stand. Is marijuana in my state, is CBD legal, is ketamine legal, where can I get MDMA legally? These kinds of questions, I want you to be able to come to this podcast and feel safe knowing, from start to finish, where you can do this drug, how to find a good practitioner to do it, what it’s going to feel like when you do it, and the science behind it.

But yeah, I made plantmedicine.org, and there’s a drop down of all the substances. And I believe firmly in the Tim Ferriss method of you can only really recommend … and I’m not recommending these drugs to anybody. I’m just putting out information. But as a practitioner/advocate, I want to know what these are like. And so, it’s part of my mission to experience all of these medicines.

What made her interested in plant medicine

Mike: So, how long have you been interested in plant medicine, what got you interested in that in the first place?

Lynn Marie: Again, I was super conservative, Catholic upbringing. And then I … I didn’t drink until I was 26. Then I started working on the VA and they told me they could drug test me at any time, and so I didn’t touch marijuana until I was 35. And it’s still not necessarily my medication of choice, but that was the first time I tried anything. And then, about a month later I went to my first Burn, and somebody gave me some LSD and I had my first ever complete like therapeutic experience through a psychedelic, even though I wasn’t in a ceremonial setting.

Lynn Marie: … it is, it is, yeah. But I had my first major therapeutic … I mean, I had gone to therapy on and off. I think by that time I had gone once or twice, never had any massive revelations. I remember saying to a prospective therapist at some point in time, I was, “If you just tell me to love myself more, we are not going to go very far,” because that’s all any therapist had ever said. You just need to love yourself. This, you can say it at me all the time, it needs to come from a different place.

Mike: It’s like saying you don’t feel like you’re good enough, right?

Lynn Marie: Right. I was like, oh my god, there are memes more effective than this. So, yeah.

Mike: You don’t need a therapist, you just need to subscribe to the right hashtags on Instagram.

Lynn Marie: Exactly. So, yeah, once I was turned on to what LSD could do, then later I tried psilocybin. And my first real kind of ceremony was the day the podcast launched, actually, in 2018, I did my first ayahausca ceremony. And I think you were probably fairly similar because I just talked to you on my episode about this, but I also have extremely cohesive downloads from, okay, this is what you need to write. I’m being told by ayahausca, here are the seven lessons you’ve gotten. It’s so clear to me. And when I do almost any type of substance, I get these very clear, here are the messages you’re supposed to receive.

And to go for years of therapy and have nothing even resembling a message that was useful. I found ways to forgive my father, and basically everybody else on earth, through my first ayahausca journey. I never have to work on forgiveness again, that’s just checked off the list.

Lynn’s ayahuasca experiences

Lynn Marie: I had my first … and it’s always just kind of sat in the back of my head. And my first ayahausca experience, I all of a sudden see myself, in my brain … it’s like a room, but it’s brain-shaped … and there’s a little bench in there and my parents are sitting on the bench. And there was nothing else in the brain. And the voice says to me, there’s nothing here to fear, go about your business. And it was like the definitive answer, there’s nothing that your brain is repressing from you, nothing is holding you back. No abuse is keeping you back. No, go about your business. I now … there’s not even a question. It’s like I’ve seen the inside of my brain and it has confirmed to me that there’s nothing there.

No. I recently did an ayahausca/huachuma ceremony. And going in I was like, I’m not really … because I had just done some psilocybin that was like life-changing. And I really thought naively, comically naively at this point, I don’t know what else … I don’t know what I’m going to ask, kind of use as an intention for the ayahausca thing. I just got shown my whole life in the psilocybin ceremony. And the person who offered me the ceremony out of nowhere says, “Yeah, we had somebody come about six months ago and put it out to find her beloved,” and she did. And I was, that’s a random thing to say, but also that is a total spot that I would love to find my person, right? And so I’m, okay, I’ll make that my intention.

And going into the ceremony I’m waiting for the medicine to kick in. And I was, maybe I’ll just start picturing this person so I can … and I realized I couldn’t picture the person or any of their characteristics. And I was, maybe this was my blind spot. Real hard to find a person you do not know what they look like, right?

And it was so funny because things in that journey … I didn’t end up purging, so I ended up having a really tough journey. And the journey shows me that I’m so tired of trying to care for the rest of the world and myself, like I had been a doctor for so long and that’s just taking other people’s energy in for 14 years. And then I live alone and I’m the only person to protect myself from this house, and I’ve been paying my own bills and my student loans for years and years, there’s not been any help.

And I was, oh my gosh, what I’m looking for is a protector. Just somebody to help me feel a little bit more safe so that I can do what I need to do, but not do all of the things. And I even said, like it said to me in that journey, I’m not one of these women who’s going to say I don’t need a man, I want a man. I’m going to say I need a man. I’ve now realized this duality here. It’s not serving me to do it all.

Let me be in my feminine, and let somebody who wants to be a protector come in. And that became so clear. And it was never like, oh show me what my beloved’s characteristics are supposed to be, but that’s … it somehow just knew. And it works in its mysterious ways, but I just felt like gosh, that was just such a beautiful lesson. It took a kind of quasi-painful night to get through, but I’m never going to forget that and it’s completely changed my dating life. Now I know what I’m looking for and it’s things a lot easier.

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Show Notes From My Episode On Wellness Force

“You want to live your truth as much as you can. So many people think that “quitting” is this dirty word but to me, “settling,” is the dirty word.” – Dr. Lynn Marie Morski

Deep down you know it’s time for a change but how can you leave a job, relationship, or educational pursuits and feel secure, safe, and happy about your quit? 

On Wellness Force Radio episode 247, Coach, Speaker, Author of Quitting by Design, and Host of the Quit Happens PodcastDr. Lynn Marie Morski, shares why quitting can be a beneficial form of self-care and discovering what works for each person, the number one reason why people don’t embrace the quit, and how quitting vs. settling are two very different things

Discover what a strategic quit is and how to use it to your advantage and for the benefit of your mind and body. 

Thousands of self-help books have been written to tell people to live their best lives, without necessarily addressing the fact that making major life changes almost always requires quitting one thing and starting another.

This pain point – the quitting itself – is often the barrier to change. Many avoid quitting because they fear the unknown. Will they find another career or relationship? Will their new path provide financial stability? Will friends and family question the decision to quit?  Will society see them as quitters?

These questions generally go unaddressed. But that’s where Quitting by Design comes in – its sole focus is to help people through their quits successfully so they can proceed with their transformations. It’s a step-by-step guide that takes readers from deciding if there’s something they should quit all the way to preparing their health, finances, and relationships for a quiet, and it helps them conquer any fears that may pop up along the way.

Dr. Lynn Marie Morski knows how to address fears and prepare your health, relationships, and finances for a quit because she’s been there time and again. She has quit educational pursuits, jobs, careers, relationships, political parties…you name it; she’s found a way to quit it while maximizing the benefits and minimizing the challenges associated with major life changes. And she wants nothing more than to pass these skills along to you.
With this book, Dr. Morski aims to pass on what she’s learned about quitting not only from her own experiences but also through interviews with others who have made successful quits themselves. She tackles the stigma surrounding quitting while highlighting what a useful and necessary tool it can be in carving out a life you enjoy.

Listen To Episode 247 As Dr. Lynn Marie Morski Uncovers:

  • Her journey as a “lifelong quitter” from going to a physician to an attorney to a law professor.
  • The connection between mental and physical health when it comes to feeling shame.
  • Steps we can take to just stop being so serious all the time.
  • Why our fear of the unknown makes it so hard to quit when it comes to moving on with our health, wealth, and relationships.
  • How to get over the anxiety of what other people think of our quit when we want to make a life change.
  • Why money is the number one reason why people don’t embrace the quit.
  • How to test out your quit in your mind to see how it feels long before you actually take action.
  • Why she’s against the idea that everything happens for a reason but doesn’t have any regrets because they’ve all led her to this very moment in her life.
  • The signs that it’s time for a quit and how to recognize them.
  • What to do if your inner circle is not on board with your strategic quit and fresh start.
  • How to get out of the mindset that “quitters” never win and you have to fake it to make it.
  • Why sharing your quits with other people can help other people with their own strategic quits.
  • The stigmas around quitting and why society has leaned towards this narrative of shaming people for making drastic life changes.
  • Journaling practice for strategic quitting and discovering where you need to make a life change.
  • How to prepare your health for a quit via insurance and hospital check-up visits.
  • Wellness practices you should get in order before you make the strategic quit actually happen.
  • Steps you can take to quit an “identity” and create a new one that truly fits who you want to be.
  • Diversification of identity: why we aren’t just one thing but many parts within our own identity.
  • How quitting can actually be a generous act for not only yourself but other people too.
  • Her 3 physical practices that can help you get clear about whether or else you need a strategic quit.

Power Quotes From The Show

“If you’re quitting something that may seem like a dream job to others or feel this societal pressure to not quit, you have to stop and realize that the people who are going to judge you aren’t you. They’re not in your shoes, they’re not in your head, and they’re not living your life. You’re the one who has to live your life; why should you let what somebody else’s thoughts of you shape your existence?” – Lynn Marie Morski

“Does your boss want an employee who’s constantly looking for a way out? No. Do other people a favor by quitting. Quitting is actually a generous act at some point because they should want somebody in that position who wants to be in that position. If you’re forcing yourself to be in this job, you’re actually doing them a disservice and there’s an opportunity cost for both you and them.” – Lynn Marie Morski

“As a society, we’re avoiding putting ourselves out there. We need to quit this facade, quit the mask, and quit this external game. Social media has made it so much worse and is doing the opposite of what it should be doing.” – Lynn Marie Morski

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READY TO MAKE QUIT HAPPEN?

Then you’re in luck! Because my online course, Make Quit Happen, is available to start now! It’s a six-week program in which each week we tackle a different step in the strategic quitting process so that at the end of the course you know WHAT you need to quit, you have overcome any quitting-related FEARS, and you’ve got HOW to make the quit happen all planned out!

Sign up HERE!

Get my book, Quitting by Design!

And if you happen to be feeling stuck in some area of your life, and may be contemplating a quit or wanting to learn more about strategic quitting, come hang out with me on Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube!

In addition, I’ve started taking on private coaching clients, if you’d like to be one of them, click HERE to set up a call so we can dive deeply into your unique quit.

Also, I’d love to have you join us over in QUITOPIA, the facebook group for the few, the proud, the quitters, where I share more quitting related content and we can all interact and support each other through our quits.

One last thing – if you have an iPhone, or an iPad, or an i-Anything, and you find the info on Quit Happens to be valuable, I’d really appreciate it if you could leave a rating or a review. To do so, pull up the show in the Podcast app and then scroll to the bottom, and click on write a review. Giving the show a rating or review or sharing it with a friend all are great ways to help other people find the show so they too can get started quitting their way to a more fulfilling life.

Matthew Del Negro: Redefining Rejection – Finding Resilience Through Reframing | Quit Happens

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There’s a beauty in taking a failure, rejection, no, or quit and turning it into something good. It starts with reshaping our minds to see these as opportunities instead. Matthew del Negro has made his life out of accepting no’s with grace.

Listen and subscribe for free on iTunes/Apple Podcasts | Spotify | Stitcher | Android

About Matthew Del Negro

Matthew is an actor and host of the 10,000 No’s podcast. Being an actor, he’s faced many rejections in his life from auditions and pilot episodes, rarely getting callbacks. It’s just the life of an actor! But he’s looking at the positive side of these no’s and has decided to celebrate them for what they are: opportunities in disguise.

Now that we’ve established that facing rejection is a chance for the Universe to bring something else to your attention, it’s important to remember that those people you think of as an overnight success are really not. They’ve all gone through the rejection process and have come out on top. But just because you’ve succeeded once, doesn’t mean you will every time – the struggle doesn’t stop just because you’re at the top, it just changes.

But Matthew says that just because you accept these no’s or the quits you decide to do, you might still feel a sense of loss and disappointment. It’s okay to feel these, but it’s not okay to wallow in those feelings. Overall, Matthew shares that you need to listen to what your heart wants because it’s rarely going to steer you wrong.

One way to help reframe your feelings of rejection is to look at life as one giant audition. Matthew explains how each audition that didn’t end in an acting gig was building who he was, helping his reputation, and taking him closer to the big break. The Universe has its own path for you, you just have to trust it.

Have you faced a no in your life before? How do you deal with rejection? When is the last time you put your trust in the Universe? Let us know in the comments below!

In This Episode:

  • Why “overnight successes” are anything but 
  • Why you need to understand that the struggle doesn’t just stop when you have one success
  • What emotions you can experience even when you’re sure you want to quit something
  • Why you should listen to what your heart wants
  • Why you should treat your entire life as an audition
  • How you can trust that the Universe has its own path for you
  • How you can reframe your idea of failure

Quotes:

“They have a very different idea of what my life is from what it really is. They see that little tip of the iceberg, they don’t see everything else that goes into it.” (7:01)

“Your problems don’t go away, they just morph into something different. Your challenges.” (13:02)

“Are you doing it because you told everybody and you’re doing it because you care about them and what they think of you and it’s a bad look? Or are you doing something that you’re really following your heart.” (19:04)

“Sometimes quitting, or sometimes a “no,” doesn’t mean you’re never going to do a thing. It just means you’re not doing this thing right now.” (22:07)

Links

Find Matthew Del Negro Online 

Follow Matthew Del Negro on Instagram | Twitter | Facebook

Get 10% off your order of Remarkable Wellness adaptogenic mushrooms with code QUIT10!


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READY TO MAKE QUIT HAPPEN?

Then you’re in luck! Because my online course, Make Quit Happen, is available to start now! It’s a six-week program in which each week we tackle a different step in the strategic quitting process so that at the end of the course you know WHAT you need to quit, you have overcome any quitting-related FEARS, and you’ve got HOW to make the quit happen all planned out!

Sign up HERE!

Get my book, Quitting by Design!

And if you happen to be feeling stuck in some area of your life, and may be contemplating a quit or wanting to learn more about strategic quitting, come hang out with me on Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube!

In addition, I’ve started taking on private coaching clients, if you’d like to be one of them, click HERE to set up a call so we can dive deeply into your unique quit.

Also, I’d love to have you join us over in QUITOPIA, the facebook group for the few, the proud, the quitters, where I share more quitting related content and we can all interact and support each other through our quits.

One last thing – if you have an iPhone, or an iPad, or an i-Anything, and you find the info on Quit Happens to be valuable, I’d really appreciate it if you could leave a rating or a review. To do so, pull up the show in the Podcast app and then scroll to the bottom, and click on write a review. Giving the show a rating or review or sharing it with a friend all are great ways to help other people find the show so they too can get started quitting their way to a more fulfilling life.

Kris Gethin: The Many Quits Behind Building a Champion | Quit Happens

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When quitting leaves you with a loss of identity, it can be an unapproachable concept. A life without everything you are and surrounded by the people you know is almost unimaginable. But today’s guest, Kris Gethin, has sequentially gone through quits in his life that have ultimately led him to where he is today.

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About Kris Gethin

Kris started his professional sporting career in motocross but had to quit due to recurring injuries. He experienced his first loss of identity here because his whole life was wrapped up in motocross racing, including his friends. Kris was faced with a choice: either dive into a dangerous world where he forgot about his pain or decide to redefine who he was.

Obviously, Kris chose the latter option. He attributes all the quits he’s made throughout his life to how he’s gotten to where he is now. As an international bodybuilder, biohacker, and fitness professional, Kris has a chain of gyms in India and hosts retreats across the world. He’s continued to defy the naysayers just to see if it would work, and let me tell you, it usually does.

Kris started experimenting with biohacking when he was having issues sleeping. He would wake up multiple times throughout the night, sometimes at 20-minute intervals, because he just couldn’t relax his body enough to sleep. Due to his training intensity and schedule, his cortisol levels were through the roof. 

Now, Kris knows exactly what he has to do to have quality sleep. He’s taken commercial DNA tests and had them analyzed which has shown he has a sensitivity to light. Kris is also redefining what it means to be a bodybuilder by regularly participating in cardiovascular activities… such as being on a treadmill while recording this podcast.

How is your identity linked to the things you love? Do you get a restful sleep at night? Have you ever taken a DNA test to learn more about your body? Let us know in the comments below!

In This Episode:

  • What a lifetime of impactful quits can lead you to your true purpose in life
  • How quitting can lead to a loss of identity
  • Why you might have to quit your group of friends in order to leave a toxic situation
  • What happens when you relax your lifestyle and realize you can still achieve your goals
  • How to hack your sleep so you get a better rest
  • What it looks like to quit your mindset and challenge those around you
  • How commercial DNA tests can indicate what you might be sensitive to
  • What we can learn from the ways of our parents

Quotes:

“There was definitely a loss of identity because that had been my identity for almost 15 years and I absolutely loved it. And it was probably the only time in my life I could get to shine and be somebody because I was pretty good at it. After that, it was like, now I’m a nobody, what do I do? I’ll go escape reality.” (6:41)

“If you are to transport nutrients around your body to the localized areas that you’ve just trained, then you have to move. You have to have blood flow.” (18:35)

“When you’re in it, it’s hard to get that outside perspective that you need yourself as opposed to someone else telling you what to do.” (22:42)

Links

Find Kris Gethin Online 

Follow Kris Gethin on Instagram | Twitter | Facebook

Learn more about Kris’ Exclusive Health and Fitness Retreat

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READY TO MAKE QUIT HAPPEN?

Then you’re in luck! Because my online course, Make Quit Happen, is available to start now! It’s a six-week program in which each week we tackle a different step in the strategic quitting process so that at the end of the course you know WHAT you need to quit, you have overcome any quitting-related FEARS, and you’ve got HOW to make the quit happen all planned out!

Sign up HERE!

Get my book, Quitting by Design!

And if you happen to be feeling stuck in some area of your life, and may be contemplating a quit or wanting to learn more about strategic quitting, come hang out with me on Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube!

In addition, I’ve started taking on private coaching clients, if you’d like to be one of them, click HERE to set up a call so we can dive deeply into your unique quit.

Also, I’d love to have you join us over in QUITOPIA, the facebook group for the few, the proud, the quitters, where I share more quitting related content and we can all interact and support each other through our quits.

One last thing – if you have an iPhone, or an iPad, or an i-Anything, and you find the info on Quit Happens to be valuable, I’d really appreciate it if you could leave a rating or a review. To do so, pull up the show in the Podcast app and then scroll to the bottom, and click on write a review. Giving the show a rating or review or sharing it with a friend all are great ways to help other people find the show so they too can get started quitting their way to a more fulfilling life.

Ryan Inman: Financial Tips to Help Prepare for Your Quit! | Quit Happens

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Are you financially prepared to quit your job to start something new? There are so many aspects you need to consider, and financial expert, Ryan Inman, is proof that sometimes taking that leap with only your savings account is enough to land on your feet. 

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About Ryan Inman

Ryan started his business, Physician Wealth Services, after leaving a hostile work environment. He got to the point where he just couldn’t take it anymore, so left his job without any notice. While Ryan landed feet first, he also had a solid savings account built up after years of working.

Perhaps the most important interpersonal lesson from Ryan is that you should always endeavor to help people without the expectation of anything in return. This is how you build relationships and your network, even if you didn’t have an existing one when you started your new venture.

Ryan talks us through how to prepare your finances for quitting your job. It starts with knowing how much you spend each month, building a savings pot (or nest egg), and speaking with people in your new industry about what kind of money you can expect to bring in.

When it comes to saving money, it’s easy to listen to experts weighing in on your weekly Starbucks. But why should you cut something out of your life that brings you joy? Save money on something that you don’t like and that isn’t necessary.

Finally, Ryan gives us the low-down on student loan debt. There are things you need to know about your student loan repayments, even if you aren’t thinking of quitting your job. But if you are, there’s also a host of things you should avoid if you’re encumbered with debt.

Do you know how much money you’re bringing in each month, and how much you’re spending? What expenses can you cut out of your life to save money? How will you handle your debt when you quit your job? Let us know in the comments below!

In This Episode:

  • What happens when you take a leap and leave a job without notice
  • Why you need to leave hostile work environments when there is a better life out there
  • How to build your network from the ground up
  • Why you should help people without any expectation of something in return
  • How to prepare your finances for quitting your job
  • Why you should speak to people in the career you want to switch to
  • How to choose what to save money on; it’s not necessarily about the Starbucks
  • What some things to avoid are if you want to quit while you have significant amounts of debt
  • What you need to know about student loan repayments

Quotes:

“If I don’t do this now, I’m never gonna do it. So let’s jump in!” (6:56)

“When it comes to saving money, I want you to think about cutting something that doesn’t make you as happy as other things.” (18:15)

“If you have student debt, it might stink, it’s not the sexiest thing in the world, but please understand what kind of debt you have. Is it federal, private, what repayment options are available to you because before you quit, you want to understand this? It might have drastic implications on what you do going forward with your loans.”  (24:21)

Links

Find Ryan Inman and Physician Wealth Services Online 

Follow Ryan Inman on Twitter | LinkedIn

Learn more about LoanBuddy.US

Get 10% off your order of Remarkable Wellness adaptogenic mushrooms with code QUIT10!


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READY TO MAKE QUIT HAPPEN?

Then you’re in luck! Because my online course, Make Quit Happen, is available to start now! It’s a six-week program in which each week we tackle a different step in the strategic quitting process so that at the end of the course you know WHAT you need to quit, you have overcome any quitting-related FEARS, and you’ve got HOW to make the quit happen all planned out!

Sign up HERE!

Get my book, Quitting by Design!

And if you happen to be feeling stuck in some area of your life, and may be contemplating a quit or wanting to learn more about strategic quitting, come hang out with me on Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube!

In addition, I’ve started taking on private coaching clients, if you’d like to be one of them, click HERE to set up a call so we can dive deeply into your unique quit.

Also, I’d love to have you join us over in QUITOPIA, the facebook group for the few, the proud, the quitters, where I share more quitting related content and we can all interact and support each other through our quits.

One last thing – if you have an iPhone, or an iPad, or an i-Anything, and you find the info on Quit Happens to be valuable, I’d really appreciate it if you could leave a rating or a review. To do so, pull up the show in the Podcast app and then scroll to the bottom, and click on write a review. Giving the show a rating or review or sharing it with a friend all are great ways to help other people find the show so they too can get started quitting their way to a more fulfilling life.

Cassie Bjork: Fighting For the Freedom to Break the Rules that Hold You Back | Quit Happens

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There’s quitting, and then there’s ‘being issued cease and desist letters from your registered board when you’re practicing what you know is right’ quitting. That’s what today’s guest, Cassie Bjork, experienced when she was a registered dietician who didn’t agree with the nutritional guidelines at the time.

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About Cassie Bjork

Cassie studied to be a dietician, but when she started gaining weight and her dad had a heart attack doing all the “right” things, she knew there was something wrong. So Cassie started learning about other aspects of nutrition, which led to her dietician practice having a more open approach to healthcare. However, the registered board disagreed, and after a 5-year battle culminating in a court battle, Cassie had had enough.

She knew that fighting for what she believed in was important, but the stress and anxiety weren’t worth it. In fact, while having her dietician’s license helped her gain credit originally, maybe Cassie didn’t even need it anymore. That’s when Cassie decided to quit fighting.

It wasn’t an easy decision to make. She was always known as Dietician Cassie. But some identities you grow out of. 

That process of transformation is uniquely personal and often long-winded. It’s something Cassie had to experience on her own, almost like breaking up with yourself. But it has led to so many more opportunities than she could have imagined.

When you break the rules that don’t serve you anymore – amazing things can happen.

Have you ever fought for your beliefs, even if they’re not what your professional organization preaches? Are you afraid to quit your job and lose part of your identity? How has negative publicity served you? Let us know in the comments below!

In This Episode:

  • How you can fight for your right to teach what you believe
  • Why quitting never feels easy
  • Why you have to go through your process of transformation on your own
  • How negative publicity can still bring you new clients and opportunities
  • What happens when you break the rules that aren’t serving you
  • How you can outgrow your identity

Quotes:

“I was the only dietician saying butter is good for your waistline. Eat more calories to lose weight. Exercise less to increase your metabolism! And then the dietician board served me cease and desist orders. As a dietician, I could only talk about food.” (5:46)

“I fought for that dietician’s license because I wanted to make a change from the inside out. I worked so hard for it.” (9:20)

“I didn’t know what would happen or what my followers would think and if I’d lose credibility. The unknown can be really scary. Quitting can be such a process of transformation. I really didn’t know what way it would go, all I knew was that it felt so right.” (11:07)

“I don’t have to be defined by my career or my credentials. I can be me and that’s enough.” (17:28)

Links

Find Cassie Bjork Online 

Follow Cassie Bjork on Instagram | Facebook

Book Your Free Business Breakthrough Session with Cassie

Get 10% off your order of Remarkable Wellness adaptogenic mushrooms with code QUIT10!


Also check out:

READY TO MAKE QUIT HAPPEN?

Then you’re in luck! Because my online course, Make Quit Happen, is available to start now! It’s a six-week program in which each week we tackle a different step in the strategic quitting process so that at the end of the course you know WHAT you need to quit, you have overcome any quitting-related FEARS, and you’ve got HOW to make the quit happen all planned out!

Sign up HERE!

Get my book, Quitting by Design!

And if you happen to be feeling stuck in some area of your life, and may be contemplating a quit or wanting to learn more about strategic quitting, come hang out with me on Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube!

In addition, I’ve started taking on private coaching clients, if you’d like to be one of them, click HERE to set up a call so we can dive deeply into your unique quit.

Also, I’d love to have you join us over in QUITOPIA, the facebook group for the few, the proud, the quitters, where I share more quitting related content and we can all interact and support each other through our quits.

One last thing – if you have an iPhone, or an iPad, or an i-Anything, and you find the info on Quit Happens to be valuable, I’d really appreciate it if you could leave a rating or a review. To do so, pull up the show in the Podcast app and then scroll to the bottom, and click on write a review. Giving the show a rating or review or sharing it with a friend all are great ways to help other people find the show so they too can get started quitting their way to a more fulfilling life.

Thaddeus Owen: Quitting Toxic Workplaces And Workspaces | Quit Happens

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Imagine working for a company that you not only morally disagree with, but has completely unethical and illegal practices? That’s the kind of career that today’s guest, Thaddeus Owen, went into when he left college. But Thaddeus knew there was more to life and his career, so he quit that toxic environment to create something incredible.

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About Thaddeus Owen

Thaddeus is the founder of PrimalHacker, a company devoted to biohacking our health to get the best out of our bodies. He started his biohacking journey by figuring out what worked best for him – living closer to work, cycling every day, and eventually, creating a life that meant he could work from home.

He opens up and shares what it was like working for that unethical company he started with. I was shocked to learn how big companies hire psychologists and use manipulation techniques to sell their products. Thaddeus always felt dubious at his company, and when he started educating himself, he was able to change his career – and life.

Thaddeus started writing about his biohacking journey on his blog when he was first exploring his new course. When a company reached out asking him to be an affiliate, he had no idea what he was signing up for but took a chance. A chance that paid off big time!

We also talk about biohacking our own health. Thaddeus shares some of his best tips for how we can all get better sleep at night. He says that modern disease started with the introduction of the lightbulb and says we should all sit near natural light through the day… and limit our artificial light at nighttime. Thaddeus also gives us some advice on how we can improve the lighting situation in our own homes.

Have you ever worked for a company that’s completely against your morals? Do you limit your exposure to artificial light throughout the day and evening? How can you create your perfect life?

In This Episode:

  • What it’s like to work for a completely unethical and sometimes illegal organization
  • How companies use manipulation to make more purchases
  • How you can educate yourself and change your career
  • Why you should start exploring alternative routes, and then writing about them, to help you advance in your career
  • What happens when you take risks and work with affiliate programs
  • How you can learn to sleep better at night
  • When and why modern disease started
  • Why you should try to sit near bright windows throughout the day
  • How we can have healthy lighting in our homes
  • What happens when you create the perfect life for you

Quotes:

“We would hire Ph.D. level psychologists to tell us how to manipulate women into buying things that they don’t need, and tricking them to think that the benefits of the product are such that they will help the woman when they actually do nothing.” (7:09)

“In a primal society, whether you believe in God or evolution or both, human biology was never designed to see blue light after dark.” (21:09)

“When I changed careers, I took a huge pay cut. Most people chase money and they chase wealth. I was chasing a career that was in line with my beliefs and my personality from a spiritual standpoint and everything else. I took a huge pay cut and that’s not easy to do.” (27:26)

“If you enjoy what you do and you enjoy where you are, you’re going to have higher and increased health.” (31:46)

Links

Find Thaddeus Owen and PrimalHacker Online

Follow Thaddeus Owen and PrimalHacker on Instagram | Twitter | Facebook

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READY TO MAKE QUIT HAPPEN?

Then you’re in luck! Because my online course, Make Quit Happen, is available to start now! It’s a six-week program in which each week we tackle a different step in the strategic quitting process so that at the end of the course you know WHAT you need to quit, you have overcome any quitting-related FEARS, and you’ve got HOW to make the quit happen all planned out!

Sign up HERE!

Get my book, Quitting by Design!

And if you happen to be feeling stuck in some area of your life, and may be contemplating a quit or wanting to learn more about strategic quitting, come hang out with me on Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube!

In addition, I’ve started taking on private coaching clients, if you’d like to be one of them, click HERE to set up a call so we can dive deeply into your unique quit.

Also, I’d love to have you join us over in QUITOPIA, the facebook group for the few, the proud, the quitters, where I share more quitting related content and we can all interact and support each other through our quits.

One last thing – if you have an iPhone, or an iPad, or an i-Anything, and you find the info on Quit Happens to be valuable, I’d really appreciate it if you could leave a rating or a review. To do so, pull up the show in the Podcast app and then scroll to the bottom, and click on write a review. Giving the show a rating or review or sharing it with a friend all are great ways to help other people find the show so they too can get started quitting their way to a more fulfilling life.

Nick Murphy: Walking Away from the NFL to Live Life Proudly UNEMPLOYABLE | Quit Happens

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Quitting the American dream as an NFL player to focus on what you’re really passionate about sounds crazy, right? Well, that’s exactly what retired football player, Nick Murphy, has done! He’s creating the lifestyle of his dreams where he can prioritize his family while helping others actualize their goals.

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About Nick Murphy

Nick is a coach who works with you to create and grow your own lifestyle business, so you can live a life you feel comfortable with and have a business you’re passionate about. He’s an author and avid podcaster, and I’m so excited to share this interview with you.

When he was in the NFL, Nick signed seven different contracts in four years. He felt like he lacked control in his life, and while a part of him liked feeling like he just had to show up, a bigger part felt like he’d rather be in charge. So he quit the NFL to create a career that works for him.

Time is one of the biggest things that can hold you back from achieving something. When you put a time limit on a goal, you’re not allowing your true potential to shine through. You can’t put a time control on something that should be full of love and passion.

But what you can do is learn how to prioritize your project and career so that you work within your zone of genius. Finding what you’re truly passionate about often means outsourcing the things that don’t bring you joy. That’s why I outsource my podcast management to the amazing Counterweight Creative and Nick makes use of Upwork.

How do you prioritize what matters most to you in both work and home life? Do you ever outsource tasks you don’t love? What kind of goals do you set yourself? 

In This Episode:

  • Why you need to find a good spot of control in your life
  • How professional sports can lead to a complete lack of control
  • How you can create a career that is balanced with your home lifestyle
  • Why setting annual goals doesn’t always work
  • Why you need to have love and passion in order to be a successful entrepreneur
  • How you can prioritize staying in your zone of genius
  • How you can make more money working for yourself than for a corporation
  • Why you need to reprioritize what matters to you in your career

Quotes:

“It just got to the point where I was like, I can’t control anything. Like, I could work my face off on a high school field and keep these kinds of meaningless side jobs to just keep playing the game and try to do the thing. My phone may never ring, or I could sit on my ass and do nothing and my phone could ring in an hour. And I just couldn’t handle that lack of control. I knew I could do more than that, so I just quit pursuing football.” (3:14)

“Let’s take time out of the equation for a minute. If this is the thing you know you’re going to do and success is guaranteed, and you’re doing the work and you’re trusting the process, it’s gonna happen.” (7:56)

“No one sits down when you’re in high school and says ‘how do you most profoundly want to use the rest of your life? What is the coolest thing you can come up with doing?’ Forget how to get it paid for or how to make money out of it and how to get a degree in it – what do you want? What fires you up? We don’t start there. So we’re constantly backtracking from this place that was fake to begin with. Some of us find an authentic way to do what we want and some of us don’t, so they stay and they settle and they suffer. And it’s sad.” (24:00)

Links

 Find Nick Murphy Online

Follow Nick Murphy on Instagram | Twitter | Pinterest | LinkedIn

Buy UNBOXED: An Unfiltered Guide to Creating a Career on Your Terms

Listen to Nick’s podcast, Building a Lifestyle Business

Check out Counterweight Creative for all your podcasting needs!


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READY TO MAKE QUIT HAPPEN?

Then you’re in luck! Because my online course, Make Quit Happen, is available to start now! It’s a six-week program in which each week we tackle a different step in the strategic quitting process so that at the end of the course you know WHAT you need to quit, you have overcome any quitting-related FEARS, and you’ve got HOW to make the quit happen all planned out!

Sign up HERE!

Get my book, Quitting by Design!

And if you happen to be feeling stuck in some area of your life, and may be contemplating a quit or wanting to learn more about strategic quitting, come hang out with me on Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube!

In addition, I’ve started taking on private coaching clients, if you’d like to be one of them, click HERE to set up a call so we can dive deeply into your unique quit.

Also, I’d love to have you join us over in QUITOPIA, the facebook group for the few, the proud, the quitters, where I share more quitting related content and we can all interact and support each other through our quits.

One last thing – if you have an iPhone, or an iPad, or an i-Anything, and you find the info on Quit Happens to be valuable, I’d really appreciate it if you could leave a rating or a review. To do so, pull up the show in the Podcast app and then scroll to the bottom, and click on write a review. Giving the show a rating or review or sharing it with a friend all are great ways to help other people find the show so they too can get started quitting their way to a more fulfilling life.

Jonathan Mendoza: Humbling the Ego to Fulfill Your True Calling | Quit Happens

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One of the more unique quitting stories I’ve ever heard comes from today’s guest, Nurse Jonathan Mendoza! Imagine being at the top of your field after years of schooling only to decide there’s more that you want out of it. So you strategically quit to go back to school to study for another degree that will basically downgrade your title.

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About Jonathan Mendoza

That’s exactly what Jonathan did. He got an undergraduate degree and then studied to become a Doctor of Chiropractic. But he quickly realized that being a chiropractor alone wasn’t fulfilling his healthcare vision. Jonathan quit his high-paying job and started a second undergraduate degree to become a nurse practitioner.

He received a lot of negativity from fellow students as he was already a doctor, and embarking on this new career path. And then when he skipped working as a nurse to complete his Master’s and become a Nurse Practitioner. All to enable him to truly create the type of holistic healthcare practice he envisioned.

Now, Jonathan is the master of injections. He opened his own clinic, the MSW Lounge, just outside Austin, to provide his patients with vitamin infusions to boost their health. Combined with his chiropractic background and supported by a talented and diverse team, Jonathan and the MSW Lounge are revolutionizing healthcare.

When you stop working for the money and start finding your own path towards fulfillment, magic can happen. So many opportunities open up when you embrace stress and changes as they come your way. And truly practicing what you preach makes all the difference.

Are you working to your full potential and fulfillment? How have you strategically quit something to incorporate all your academic letters into creating your perfect job? Have you learned to listen to your body?

In This Episode:

  • What can happen when you strategically quit
  • How you can combine your multiple credentials to create your perfect work
  • What happens when your body decides it’s time to take a break
  • Why you need to work for self-fulfillment rather than money
  • How you can make a responsible and realistic decision to quit
  • How opportunities open up when you’re facing entrepreneurial stress
  • Why you need to embrace the changes you make in your life
  • Why you need to follow your own advice when you’re teaching wellness principles

Quotes:

“Technically, I do this and this, but my credentials are this. Those letters don’t define who I am, they allow me to practice and work a certain way.” (6:38)

“I think that’s why entrepreneurs love the start-up game. I think that’s why people love quitting because there’s an opportunity and there’s fun that comes with it. That stress that I had was a completely different kind of stress than I had when I finished my master’s degree. The stress of opening a business is fun stress. It sucks, but it’s fun stress.” (15:54)

“I molded my lifestyle to the point now where I think we’re thriving, only because things are more in balance and I think that’s the only way life can be. And that’s the only way to work.” (23:17)

Links

Find Jonathan Mendoza on Instagram

Find MSW Lounge Online

Follow MSW on Facebook | Instagram


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READY TO MAKE QUIT HAPPEN?

Then you’re in luck! Because my online course, Make Quit Happen, is available to start now! It’s a six-week program in which each week we tackle a different step in the strategic quitting process so that at the end of the course you know WHAT you need to quit, you have overcome any quitting-related FEARS, and you’ve got HOW to make the quit happen all planned out!

Sign up HERE!

Get my book, Quitting by Design!

And if you happen to be feeling stuck in some area of your life, and may be contemplating a quit or wanting to learn more about strategic quitting, come hang out with me on Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube!

In addition, I’ve started taking on private coaching clients, if you’d like to be one of them, click HERE to set up a call so we can dive deeply into your unique quit.

Also, I’d love to have you join us over in QUITOPIA, the facebook group for the few, the proud, the quitters, where I share more quitting related content and we can all interact and support each other through our quits.

One last thing – if you have an iPhone, or an iPad, or an i-Anything, and you find the info on Quit Happens to be valuable, I’d really appreciate it if you could leave a rating or a review. To do so, pull up the show in the Podcast app and then scroll to the bottom, and click on write a review. Giving the show a rating or review or sharing it with a friend all are great ways to help other people find the show so they too can get started quitting their way to a more fulfilling life.

Five MORE Quits to Find Your Freedom | Quit Happens

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In the second annual Fourth of July Freedom episode, Lynn Marie talks about five of her favorite most recent quits – take a listen to see if any of them may spark ideas of quits that might benefit YOU!


Also check out:

READY TO MAKE QUIT HAPPEN?

Then you’re in luck! Because my online course, Make Quit Happen, is available to start now! It’s a six-week program in which each week we tackle a different step in the strategic quitting process so that at the end of the course you know WHAT you need to quit, you have overcome any quitting-related FEARS, and you’ve got HOW to make the quit happen all planned out!

Sign up HERE!

Get my book, Quitting by Design!

And if you happen to be feeling stuck in some area of your life, and may be contemplating a quit or wanting to learn more about strategic quitting, come hang out with me on Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube!

In addition, I’ve started taking on private coaching clients, if you’d like to be one of them, click HERE to set up a call so we can dive deeply into your unique quit.

Also, I’d love to have you join us over in QUITOPIA, the facebook group for the few, the proud, the quitters, where I share more quitting related content and we can all interact and support each other through our quits.

One last thing – if you have an iPhone, or an iPad, or an i-Anything, and you find the info on Quit Happens to be valuable, I’d really appreciate it if you could leave a rating or a review. To do so, pull up the show in the Podcast app and then scroll to the bottom, and click on write a review. Giving the show a rating or review or sharing it with a friend all are great ways to help other people find the show so they too can get started quitting their way to a more fulfilling life.

Mike Bledsoe: The Biggest Key To Learning Quickly | Quit Happens

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You don’t always need to know where you’ll end up at the end of the road before quitting something that’s not right for you. Taking that first step can be daunting. But as today’s guest, coach and podcaster Mike Bledsoe, shares, exploring so many different avenues has led him to be a more well-rounded person who is 100% passionate and dedicated to his work.

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About Mike Bledsoe

Mike is a lifelong student who works with coaches to completely transform their careers. After his entrepreneur journey featuring the military, sales, physical training, and more, he’s well-equipped to help coaches find their place in the world.

Today, we’re talking about why it’s so important for every aspect of your life to incorporate play into it. Play lets you explore different areas and just have fun… both of which leads to a happier existence, which shines through in your work.

It’s okay to quit opportunities that don’t align with where you are in life. Most of the time, when you do this, you’ll actually reposition yourself closer to your values, interests, and passions. When you’re feeling inspired, it’s often a good idea to take a chance – you never know what will happen.

Are you driven by money and your finances or your inspiration and passion? How do you feel when you’re on the right path? When’s the last time you took a chance on something you feel inspired by?

Oh, and if you’re like WHAT IS THE BIGGEST KEY TO LEARNING??? Get to it already!!! Well, here’s a funny story:

Mike invited me to a plant medicine ceremony later that evening. Toward the end of the ceremony, we were sharing some goldenberries. More accurately, he had a bag of them and he was handing them to me one at a time. They were very delicious, but also very sour, so it took me a minute to get through each one. At some point he tried to hand me more than one and I think I dropped them or something else happened that made it apparent that I was totally incapable of handling more than one goldenberry at a time, so I said, “One at a time, please.” He laughed and said, “Yeah, apparently that’s the key, one at a time.” At which point he had an A-ha moment and the podcast came back to him and he said “THE KEY!!!”

So, for anyone who came to the show notes for the key to learning quickly, it is to focus on one thing at a time. 

In This Episode:

  • Why you need to play more every day
  • How to face the people who told you ‘you wouldn’t make it’
  • How a book can completely change your perspective on yourself
  • Why it’s okay to quit something to pursue opportunities more in line with your passions
  • Why you don’t need to see the destination to take steps along the path
  • What the difference between a serial entrepreneur and a serial quitter is
  • How to take a chance when you’re feeling inspired
  • What a difference asking for something makes
  • How not letting the pressures of needing money dictate what you pursue in life
  • How quitting can make you a more well-rounded person

Quotes:

“More is not better. What you need is space, and play creates space.” (2:32)

“I never thought that I could get paid so well to do something I love so much. And that would not have happened if I hadn’t quit.” (19:39)

“People that love you will give you the worst advice.” (25:02)

“What I realized during the retreat was that I didn’t know how many of the choices I’d made in my life up to that point were actually my choices or some type of belief that was planted there from a previous moment.”(48:05)

“Even when things were going well, I was still behaving desperately. So I decided I would only act out of inspiration, no matter what happens.” (53:02)

“I let curiosity be my guide and I’m not limited by trying to fix something. To me, that’s one of the biggest keys to moving quickly.” (1:11:51)

Links

Find Mike Bledsoe Online

Follow Mike Bledsoe on Facebook | Instagram | Twitter | YouTube | LinkedIn


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READY TO MAKE QUIT HAPPEN?

Then you’re in luck! Because my online course, Make Quit Happen, is available to start now! It’s a six-week program in which each week we tackle a different step in the strategic quitting process so that at the end of the course you know WHAT you need to quit, you have overcome any quitting-related FEARS, and you’ve got HOW to make the quit happen all planned out!

Sign up HERE!

Get my book, Quitting by Design!

And if you happen to be feeling stuck in some area of your life, and may be contemplating a quit or wanting to learn more about strategic quitting, come hang out with me on Facebook, Instagram, and YouTube!

In addition, I’ve started taking on private coaching clients, if you’d like to be one of them, click HERE to set up a call so we can dive deeply into your unique quit.

Also, I’d love to have you join us over in QUITOPIA, the facebook group for the few, the proud, the quitters, where I share more quitting related content and we can all interact and support each other through our quits.

One last thing – if you have an iPhone, or an iPad, or an i-Anything, and you find the info on Quit Happens to be valuable, I’d really appreciate it if you could leave a rating or a review. To do so, pull up the show in the Podcast app and then scroll to the bottom, and click on write a review. Giving the show a rating or review or sharing it with a friend all are great ways to help other people find the show so they too can get started quitting their way to a more fulfilling life.

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